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Although I do not know when historically-speaking football games
impacted the 'hood in any meaningful way, I agree with Mitchell here
that the passes are actually a intended to be solution to a
problem. They have been effective in maintaining some tranquility
on game weekends. <br>
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Agree also that mailing passes (like our parking passes) is a good
idea.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Lucie<br>
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PS....Somebody around here sprayed 2,4-D herbicide again
(Weed-B-Gone and other lawn "maintenance" products are the usual
source) and my backyard grapes were not happy about it. Not fatal to
them but I hate to think of us all breathing in the volatile drift
that the grapes reacted to. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/30/2017 12:03 AM, Mitchell Smolkin
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<div dir="auto">Think of it this way: There are no passes, and
the police allow tens of thousands of the Mongol hoards to
park on our streets, have tailgate parties in our
neighborhood, and block our drive ways. Instead of allowing
the above mayhem on our streets, the university has police
park on all our street corners to prohibit the mob from
occuping our neighborhood. This is a great and expensive
blessing that we have going for us. Secondly, the University
and their football were here before the vast majority of our
homes were built. Thirdly, our neighborhood is great to live
in, largely because it is near to the University and its
beauty and cultural advantages.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Of course, I think they should have just mailed
the passes to us. They may even agree to do this next year if
we asked, but let's not go off the deep end in the mean time.
Let's not throw their tea in the ocean.</div>
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<div>On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:38 PM Kevin Donleavy <<a
href="mailto:djkevindonleavy@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">djkevindonleavy@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>I agree with Howard about the almighty U. and this new
antic. Asking for permission to drive in our own
neighborhood ? If a family invests an immense of money
in a home purchase, should they be told they can't leave
their house without a pass ? Absurdum est ! Tantamount to
bullying, this imposition of obtaining a pass.
Homeowners don't cause the trouble. The U. and its
athletics are causing the difficulty here.
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<div>What's the size of the athletic budget ? It must be
very large. And the impoverished athletics people can't
afford to distribute passes ? Come on, now. There are,
of course, prestigious colleges and universities who
have NO competing sports teams, and they seem to do
very well in their job of educating students.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM,
Howard Kutchai <span><<a
href="mailto:hkutchai@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">hkutchai@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>Dear Neighbors--
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<div>I agree that it is a burden to go through this
rigmarole to be able to drive in our own
neighborhood! i wonder if this would withstand
legal scrutiny (any lawyers in the neighborhood
care to opine?). I do not like UVa throwing its
weight around like this.</div>
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<div>for some years, rather than displaying the
pass, i have shown my driver's license with my
Bollingwood Rd address to the guards. This has
worked so far.</div>
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<div>best wishes,</div>
<div> howard</div>
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<div>Howard Kutchai
"illegitimis noncarborundum"
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<div>126 Bollingwood Rd
Charlottesville, VA 22903</div>
<div>home: <a
href="tel:%28434%29%20296-0541"
value="+14342960541"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">434-296-0541</a>
(use home number, rather
than cell phone)</div>
<div>cell: <a
href="tel:%28434%29%20249-3389"
value="+14342493389"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">434-249-3389</a></div>
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<div>"It just goes to show ya,
'It's always sometlhin!'"</div>
<div><i>Rosa Rosanna Danna"
(from Gilda Radner)</i></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at
9:53 AM, Bill Rockwell <span><<a
href="mailto:wlrockwell@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wlrockwell@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>Please see the note below from Board
member Susie Gainer, who discovered a change
in procedure for the "game-day" resident
passes. Up until now, the athletic dept. has
distributed these passes door to door.
Sorry, but we didn't get any notice about
this change either....Bill Rockwell, LMNA
Co-Chair</div>
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Susan
Gainer</b> <span><<a
href="mailto:gainer.susan@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gainer.susan@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:19 AM<br>
Subject: Resident Passes for Football Games
- HELP<br>
To: Bill Rockwell <<a
href="mailto:wlrockwell@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wlrockwell@gmail.com</a>>,
Terry Forbes <<a
href="mailto:forbes@vmdo.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">forbes@vmdo.com</a>><br>
Cc: Audrey Dannenberg <<a
href="mailto:aadann@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aadann@gmail.com</a>>,
Scott Ruffner <<a
href="mailto:ruffner@aldermanroad.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ruffner@aldermanroad.net</a>>,
John Gainer <<a
href="mailto:jlg@virginia.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jlg@virginia.edu</a>><br>
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<div>Hi Bill and Terry,
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<div>I don't know how to use the listserv,
but this year you have to apply for your
resident pass for football games. (So
glad I called.) You have to do all of
this online.</div>
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<div>The website is <a
href="https://athletics.virginiasports.com/residents/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://athletics.virginiasports.com/residents/</a></div>
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<div>username is : resident</div>
<div>password is : uvagohoosgo!</div>
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<div>It works as I just ordered mine.</div>
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<div>Thanks UVa for letting us know.</div>
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<div>Susan Gainer</div>
<div>125 Cameron Lane</div>
<div>Charlottesville, VA
22903</div>
<div><a
href="tel:%28434%29%20295-0433"
value="+14342950433"
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